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Evan Weiss, COO of Alluvial, discusses Liquid Staking, the ETH ETF, and the prospects for DeFi and Staking in Episode 357.
In an engaging episode of the Cryptonews Podcast, Evan Weiss, COO of Alluvial and a prominent figure at Liquid Collective, conversed with Matt Zahab about the complexities of staking in the Ethereum ecosystem and the prospects for DeFi.
Weiss offered a comprehensive overview of liquid staking, the groundbreaking idea of restaking, and the wider ramifications for decentralized finance (DeFi).
Liquid staking, a technique that enables users to stake their ETH while maintaining liquidity through derivative tokens, has significantly impacted the DeFi landscape. These derivative tokens can be utilized within DeFi ecosystems to provide flexibility and additional earning possibilities.
Conversely, restaking is a more recent concept introduced by protocols like EigenLayer. This protocol utilizes the security of the Ethereum blockchain to safeguard multiple protocols and enhance yield for stakers without requiring separate validator networks.
Liquid Staking: A Transformative Force in DeFi
Evan Weiss has consistently advocated for the transformative capabilities of liquid staking within the DeFi sector. He emphasized its function in delivering liquidity while preserving the advantages of staking, which initially appears too revolutionary to be accurate.
To clarify, liquid staking revolves around enabling users to earn staking rewards while employing derivative tokens across various DeFi protocols, thereby directly enhancing capital efficiency more than previously possible.
Weiss further underscored the importance of this advancement, especially in encouraging increased participation from both retail and institutional investors.
He explained that by providing a mechanism to stake assets without locking them, liquid staking mitigates one of the primary obstacles to entering the staking ecosystem.
“If you stake and your assets are locked up, you’re about 93% less likely to stake. Whereas if you have liquidity, now I don’t need to think about when I need to sell.”
This innovation democratizes access to staking rewards and integrates more smoothly with existing DeFi protocols, fostering a more interconnected and efficient financial ecosystem.
He elaborated on how platforms like Liquid Collective facilitate this transformation by offering a solid infrastructure for liquid staking.
“We’re going to build this product through that large enterprises, whether that’s a crypto exchange, an asset manager, get integrated this into their solution, and be able to bring a really great and liquid and scalable product to their end users.”
Liquid Collective by the numbers for today Feb 27th:
65,639 staked ETH
$211.88m TVL (+84.53% 30d)
2,050 active validators1 LsETH =1.0410 ETH
Data from https://t.co/JBJ91Wcst5 and https://t.co/t5wpStvFud
— Liquid Collective (@liquid_col) February 27, 2024
A Step Further in the Staking Paradigm: Restaking
Restaking, as introduced by EigenLayer, signifies a notable progression in the staking paradigm. It enables the security of staked ETH to be utilized across various protocols, directly enhancing yield potential.
Restaking optimizes the utility of staked assets by allowing stakers to secure additional protocols without the necessity for separate validator networks.
Weiss also discussed how restaking could result in higher yields for participants, as they can earn rewards from multiple protocols.
He highlighted that this innovation not only benefits individual stakers but also bolsters the overall Ethereum ecosystem in terms of security and network efficiency.
“The nice thing with restaking is now if you have ETH, I can restake my ETH and I earn nice staking rewards, like we’ve talked about, that yield right there, but also I can also earn additional rewards or yield from those different ABSs. And so it’s a way to really kind of continue to increase you helping secure blockchains, but also increasing the yield you can earn on your Ethereum.”
By providing a more flexible and efficient method to secure networks, restaking could play a vital role in the growth and sustainability of DeFi projects.
Additionally, Weiss emphasized the significance of trust and security in this new framework. He asserted that for staking to achieve widespread acceptance, it is crucial for users to have confidence in the security measures implemented.
“I think with products that we’re building that we can satisfy very large enterprises, compliance and security requirements, and some of this new technology improvements, that’s the thing that I think getting mainstream users to be able to participate in DeFi.”
Institutional Adoption of DeFi and “Regulatory Certainty Coming Through”
A prominent theme in Weiss’s discussion was the increasing interest from institutional entities in the DeFi sector.
The regulatory environment is evolving rapidly, with developments such as ETH ETFs and legislative advancements in the U.S. creating opportunities for greater institutional engagement.
“I expect that, you know, crypto is just becoming more of a political, you know, hopefully bipartisan political issue. And with that, we’ll have regulatory certainty coming through whether Congress or a new change in regime at the SEC. But, you know, I’d say hold on to your seats if that happens, because I think these big players are kind of itching to get in and start innovating a little bit.”
Staking in ETPs is already happening (Europe, Canada). As the political landscape shifts it’s only a matter of time before the US leads on staking ETFs. https://t.co/pkrlS09GTu
— Evan Weiss (@evweiss1) July 17, 2024
While some speculated on the motivations behind these developments, Weiss indicated that these changes are essential for providing regulatory clarity, enabling traditional financial institutions to confidently enter the crypto sector.
Weiss stressed that enhanced regulatory frameworks could unlock significant capital inflows from institutional investors, reinstating the legitimacy and stability that appeared to have been lost in the DeFi ecosystem.
He also addressed the potential challenges posed by regulatory changes.
He characterized regulation as a double-edged sword. While it can offer much-needed clarity and security, it also has the potential to hinder innovation if not executed thoughtfully.
How to Improve Mainstream Adoption of DeFi?
Weiss asserted that enhancing user experience is vital for the mainstream acceptance of DeFi. He pointed to innovations like Coinbase’s smart contract wallet, which simplifies interactions with DeFi protocols.
“Normal people like my parents, my friends where they could just click a button and stake. And I think that is kind of what we’ll start to see with restaking as more of these centralized players just make it super easy.”
These innovations reduce barriers to entry by facilitating easier management of digital assets and participation in staking.
Weiss envisions a future where engaging with DeFi platforms is as straightforward as traditional online banking. This transition will necessitate ongoing efforts to streamline interfaces, enhance security, and educate users about the advantages and risks associated with DeFi.
If these challenges can be effectively addressed, the DeFi community can establish a more inclusive and accessible financial system that serves a diverse range of users.
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That’s Not All: Other Key Takeaways from the Podcast
- Ethereum at the center of staking and its impact.
- Achieving decentralization in staking.
- Blockchain interoperability benefits.
- Managing Staking risks.
- Enhancing smart contract security through staking.
- DeFi’s role in financial inclusion.
You can watch the full podcast episode here.
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About Evan Weiss
Evan Weiss, Chief Operating Officer at Alluvial, is a seasoned expert in the crypto industry. Before Alluvial, he served as the Business Development Lead for Coinbase Cloud at Coinbase, where he played a crucial role in leading business teams for the launch of Coinbase’s Wallet-as-a-Service.
Prior to this, he also served as the Head of Business Operations at Bison Trails, successfully managing sales, business operations, and customer success teams.
Under Evan’s leadership, these teams built the industry’s largest staking provider, overseeing assets totaling over $30 billion by November 2021.
Evan is also the founder of the Proof of Stake Alliance (POSA), a nonprofit industry alliance established in 2019. POSA has been a driving force in advocating forward-thinking public policies to foster innovation in proof-of-stake ecosystems.
Evan’s work with POSA includes contributions to legal frameworks for staking, industry principles for staking-as-a-service, and fair taxation of staking rewards.
His efforts have resulted in the publication of the first legal research addressing staking regulation and tax considerations, particularly in the context of liquid staking in the United States.
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1 LsETH =1.0410 ETH